Evidence against India-ISI Chief confronts CIA head about Terror in Pakistan

ISLAMABAD – Serious differences are understood to have cropped up between Pakistan’s premier intelligence agency ISI and US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) over the latter’s dismal role in countering terrorism in Pakistan, TheNation reliably learnt on Friday.
According to well-placed sources, the differences between the two strategic partners in war against terror cropped up when ISI Chief Lt. General Ahmed Shujja Pasha in a meeting expressed his disappointment to his US counterpart, the CIA chief spymaster Leon Panetta, over the US failure to help Pakistan in counter-terrorism efforts.

Although there was no official confirmation either from the US Embassy or ISPR about the meeting, it was learnt that both of them had thought provoking talks here in which General Pasha had presented to the CIA official a shocking evidence about Indian interference into Pakistan by using Afghanistan soil. General Pasha, the informed sources said, had presented the evidence about Indian efforts aiding terrorism in Balochistan and Waziristan.

The sources said that General Pasha was critical to the CIA’s counter-terrorism strategy in Afghanistan and CIA’s failure to provide concrete actionable information to Pakistan in containing flow of aid to terror networks operating from Afghanistan to destabilize Pakistan.

The sources said that the CIA chief is currently visiting Pakistan as a follow-up to the visit of US of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to address complains of Pakistan’s military establishment.

The CIA chief is to meet Army Chief General Ashfaq Pavez Kayani today and is likely to get the similar input from him, the sources said. He is also expected to visit Saudi Arabia before his return to USA. ISI Chief confronts CIA counterpart with evidence, By: Maqbool Malik | Published: November 21, 2009

US and China want Kashmir resolved: Critical International issue

In many public and private statements the US administration, think tanks, generals and politicians have clearly stated that Kashmir is the root cause of much of he militancy in South Asia. After relentless pressure the Americans don’t talk about it publicly. Delhi has used its equity with the Americans on trying to remove Kashmir from the vocabulary of America—and it hasn’t worked. Every once in a while a voice from Washington once again reiterates the fact that Kashmir is disputed territory. For all her maps and talk, Kashmir remains an international issue. Even after six decades Delhi has not been able to gobble up the Muslim majority area. Nehru’s blunder has caused huge problems for generations of Bharatis. On Pakistan's independence day every August 14th, the Kashmiris raise Pakistani flogs on buildings in Srinagar and elsewhere in Indian occupied Kashmir. Every August 15th they raise black flags to protest the Bharati independence day.

 

 

‘With respect to any resolution, that’s up to them,’ Clinton responded when asked if Washington is pushing the two countries on the issue. - File photo

WASHINGTON: The United States is negotiating some measurements with both Pakistan and Afghanistan to determine success in the fight against extremists, says US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

In three separate interviews to US, Afghan and British media outlets, released by the State Department on Friday, the secretary also acknowledged that the United States was encouraging India and Pakistan to resume their efforts to seek a negotiated settlement of the Kashmir issue.

‘I don’t think that they’re benchmarks … what we’re trying to do is create some measurements that can determine whether we’re succeeding,’ said the secretary when asked if the US was negotiating specific benchmarks with Afghanistan and Pakistan to pave the way for the withdrawal of international troops from Afghanistan.

Referring to her talks with the Afghan defence minister in Kabul this week over better integration between the Afghan and international forces in Afghanistan, she said: ‘That’s a good benchmark. That’s the kind of benchmark we’re looking at, because what we want to see is how we determine that we’re making progress on the path … where your military will have what it needs to begin to take responsibility for much of the country.’

Mrs Clinton said that over the last 10 months, the US and Pakistan had developed a much higher degree of cooperation and communication.

She noted that only 10 months ago, the two countries didn’t have the necessary trust that  ‘you have to have in order to listen to the other side and say, okay, I agree with you and I’m going forward’.

‘The cooperation between our militaries, the personal relationships that have been established between, for example, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Admiral Mullen, and chief of the army in Pakistan General Kayani, are incredibly important in helping to break down barriers,’ she added.

‘So when we said at the beginning of this administration that we were disappointed that the Pakistani government was not going after the Taliban — because we saw them as a direct threat to the Pakistani government – and that then the Pakistanis themselves reached a consensus they had to do that, we thought there was a very significant change in attitude.’

The US, she said, would continue to press them to go after all of the extremists in Pakistan.

‘Are you looking at tackling the Kashmir problem to try to help Pakistan really move its focus to the border with Afghanistan?’ she was asked.

‘Well, we’ve encouraged both countries to resume a dialogue that they were engaged in which came to a halt and yet holds a lot of promise. They had made progress, I’m told, in sorting through some of the longstanding difficulties they face, and most particularly the status of Kashmir. But it’s clear that any solution has to come from the two countries themselves,’ said the top US diplomat.

‘You’re not pushing?

‘Well, we are encouraging them to get back into dialogue. We think that is important. But with respect to any resolution, that’s up to them,’ she responded.

dawn. US wants Indo-Pak talks on Kashmir: Clinton Saturday, 21 Nov, 2009

No amount of Indian chagrin can change the fact that China does not accept the Indian occupation of Kashmir. The recent US-China joint statement coming out of Beijing so astounded Delhi that it retorted with several statements decrying the mention of India-Pakistan relations (read Kashmir between the lines).

Hillary Clinton has once again admitted that the US is pushing Bharat towards talks on Kashmir. Delhi missed a huge opportunity with President Musharraf. Now it has go back to old Pakistani positions about a plebiscite. Mir Waiz sensing movement is ready to go on his rounds to Islamabad and Beijing. Mir Waiz in his falwed logic wants a free Kashmir and an independent Kashmir. This folly will make Kashmir end up like Sikkim. Most Kashmiris realize this.That is why Gilani is still so popular. Bharatis living in their isolated homes in apartheid society have no clue about the depth of feeling the Kashmiris have for Pakistan—they never will.

India can’t even match up against Pakistan in defense: IAF Vice Chief Air Marshal P K Barbora

Talking to the Indian press, about the sad state of affairs of Indian defense, the Indian IAF Vice Chief Air Marshal P K Barbora made the following statement

We do not even match up Pakistan as far defence goes: IAF Vice Chief

Amazingly this story was published only by two Bharti newspapers. Other than the Indian Express all major newspapers either suppressed the story, did not see news value in it or deliberately did not publish it. Bharatis are fed a constant dose of “indigenous production” which they begin to believe. These stories shatter the false paradigm with truth, so most Indian news outlets do not run the stories.

NEW DELHI, Nov. 19 (APP) Indian Air Force Vice Chief Air Marshal P K Barbora while complaining against Indian political class for playing politics on military requirements said “as far as defence goes, we don’t even match up with Pakistan.”Playing politics over defence purchases impinged “very badly” on the country’s military requirements,” he told a CII seminar on energising aviation sector in India.

P K Barbora while expressing dissatisfaction also about India’s Defence exports said, “as far as defence goes, we don’t even match up with Pakistan.”“The internal politics over the years is such that whatever defence requirements are cleared by the government, they are opposed by the opposition parties and the same happens when roles change and opposition sits in government, “ he said.

Barbora’s observations on Tuesday about recruitment of women pilots in IAF also generated heated debate in the media.

He had said “they may be recruited as fighter pilots provided they do not become mother till a certain age.” He also suggested that having woman pilots in IAF may be a bad investment for the government.

Today, he said he did not mean that what had been debated in the media over his remarks saying those were his personal views and not the policy of the Ministry of Defence. APP

 

The Indian Express also the reported the same story. Here Vice Chief Air Marshal P K Barbora sheds light on the fake indigenous production of planes in Bharat (aka India):

Talking about the transfer of technology (ToT) agreements in the defence deals, Barbora said they were not very beneficial as "what actually has come after so many deals (in ToT) with foreign company or whatever it is, I am sorry, it was tools and kits, which came in bags and containers and we assembled the aircraft here."

Citing example of the success of the European aviation consortium Airbus, Barbora said Indian industry should also look at building partnerships on those lines and must join hands with other countries to grow.

Marshall Barbora had some ideas on how to develop the Indian defense industry, but his ideas failed to explain how China and Pakistan had developed thier local defense industry and both have defense exports bigger than Bharat. Marshall Barbora also did not shed light on why a foreign commercial enterprise would give away its secrets (Coke formula) and commit commercial suicide.

We have to take steps...we need to be bold enough to invite Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), more so into defence use," he told a CII seminar on energising aviation sector in India.

At present, foreign companies are allowed to invest only 26 per cent in Indian companies. Some of the global defence giants such as BAE Systems had proposed to start a joint venture with Mahindra Defence Systems with 49 per cent stakes but it did not get government's approval.

Commenting on the politics over military purchases, Barbora said whatever defence requirements are cleared by the government, they are opposed by the opposition parties and the same happens when roles change and opposition sits in government.

"That impinges very badly on our defence requirements," he said.
Stressing on the need for giving more freedom to private industry, Barbora said, "Private industry has to be evolved and given a market of their choosing and not our choosing, of course with certain guidelines."

He said bringing in private players was very important for the aviation sector as India was not even contributing one per cent to the world market in the aerospace industry.

Asking the private companies to learn reverse engineering processes the way China did to develop most of its defence technologies, he said, "Forget about ethics. China has done all the reverse engineering. Has anyone ever had the courage to ask China why are you doing it. No one cares a hoot. If you can't do it yourself, you should know how to reverse engineering.

"We have not been able to move forward for some reason or the other," Barbora added.

On the present status of the country's capabilities in the aerospace sector, the IAF Vice Chief said India was very happy producing small parts of aircraft and exporting them to Airbus in Europe but China has already started building whole aircraft for the same company. News x. http://newsx.com/story/66875